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Post subject: HEADS
 Posted: Jan 25, 2010 - 03:47 AM
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| I need to know if a head off of a 2.3 mustang would fit on my 2.3 topaz and if it is even worth it. please reply fast |
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Posted: Jan 25, 2010 - 04:03 AM
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| Nope, not even close. The Mustang 2.3 is a completely different motor, an overhead cam motor, the one in the Topaz is not. |
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Posted: Jan 25, 2010 - 04:12 AM
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| With enough machining and welding, it might. |
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Posted: Jan 25, 2010 - 04:14 AM
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it won't fit .
jtzing is right / but it would cost more then a new car. |
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Posted: Jan 25, 2010 - 04:43 AM
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| 88Escort and jtzing, what do you mean? convert the HSC to ohc? lol you'd be better off swappin a 2.3 lima instead. |
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Posted: Jan 25, 2010 - 04:59 AM
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| thanks for the info. I just figure I'm going to have the motor torn down to replase the valve seats just curious to what kind of upgrades were possible |
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Posted: Jan 25, 2010 - 05:01 AM
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Blabbermouth
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| they make stainless valves, 1.7 rockers, and if you search hard enough you'll be able to find different springs i believe. You can also port out the intake and exhaust ports. |
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Posted: Jan 25, 2010 - 05:08 AM
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| well I'm going to probably get a head from a junk yard so what exactly should I be looking for? |
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Posted: Jan 25, 2010 - 05:22 AM
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Blabbermouth
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| what year is your car? if your car is 88 or newer, any 88 or newer head will work off of a 2.3. |
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Posted: Jan 26, 2010 - 02:59 AM
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| What makes you think you must replace the 'valve seats'? That's pretty unusual............ |
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Posted: Jan 26, 2010 - 01:22 PM
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SPEED said "thanks for the info. I just figure I'm going to have the motor torn down to replase the valve seats just curious to what kind of upgrades were possible "
first upgrade should be a new mechanic;
I can not think of any way to determine a valve seat needs replaced without having the head off. a leak down test will only tell if the valve is sealing. you can look in the ports , but you need part of the engine disassembled for that. is it possible you mean valve seals? different animal. you can do those without taking the head off.
if you do remove the head the one of the best upgrades is to clean the carbon and crap off of all the parts. tops of pistons, runners,valves etc. |
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Posted: Jan 27, 2010 - 12:48 AM
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| When i first start it I have full power (which still isn't much) but it when it warms up it loses almost all of its power. it spits and sputters, bogs down. at first I guessed it was an air or fuel problem but i can't see how it would work cold and not work warm. it still has enough power to hold a steady speed if the ground is level. it doesn't like to accelerate from red lights or stop signs and it slows drasticly on hills. a few times it has stalled in intersections (while tryin to accelerate) and while sitting at lights. sometimes i can restart it and put through but sometimes i have to put it in neutral and get off the road and let it cool for a while. |
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Posted: Jan 27, 2010 - 12:52 AM
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| it is an '89 by the way and I am fairly fresh in the automotive field, I'm obsessed with cars but I have only had one formal class and I'm taking another now and I am going to be going to UTI in july. |
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Posted: Jan 27, 2010 - 06:11 AM
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Try changing the TPS first.
I had similar problems with one of my 2nd gens and that was all that corrected the problem.
Mine was not throwing a code for it either. |
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Posted: Jan 27, 2010 - 09:22 PM
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Posting Freak
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Heck, I can get a head for you that you would LOVE. Larger valves, new seats if needed, shaved a bit to up compression a little, 1.7 rocker arms.
I was going to try and sell heads like this to people, but there just isn't the demand, and they are a little pricey.
You would still have to correctly identifiy what length of push rod you would need, too. but I can put you in the right direction for those. |
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