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BubbaDeuces
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Post subject: Auto to Manual Questions
 Posted: Oct 15, 2009 - 09:41 AM
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Okay guys, here's the scoop. I've been trying to piece together an Auto to Manual swap on my 91 4dr. I was wondering if I would have to switch out the ECM's, also, I have read underoaths post about the parts list and was wondering if there were any other parts that I may also need.
For refrence here is his post.
A new clutch kit (Performance Recommended) ($200)
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www.sportcompactonly.com/Clutch-Kits/Tra...art_c-72_p-94351.htm
A new clutch cable ($2
The shifter assembly ($20)
The clutch/brake pedal assembly (royal pain to remove) ($25)
Manual flywheel from 86-90 Ford Escort 1.9L ($40)
Pressure plate bolts. ($1
Front mount bracket that goes from the front mount to transmission ($10)
A rear transmission mount because there different ($10)
Used front axle from manual TT Gen2 ($41)
5 Speed Transmission (Base=HSC. Sports=HSO) ($111)
Tools needed:
Good Socket Set
Good Wrench Set
Socket Extensions
Floor Jack
Screwdrivers
13, 15, 18mm Wrench
Any replies are welcome, thanks for looking.
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amc49
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Posted: Oct 18, 2009 - 12:24 AM
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Flywheel bolts? Generally longer than flexplate bolts are. Maybe pilot bearing/bushing, automatic doesn't generally use them but manual always does. I guess clutch kit might have throwout assembly, but some don't. Need throwout lever inside bellhousing. You'll need to figure out what it takes to convert from neutral switch wiring to manual to get reverse lights and able to start without neutral switch. Means hooking up clutch pedal switch to not allow start in gear too. Electrics change not hard or expensive but require some thinking. Get ALL the shifter linkage, not just the assembly itself.
Changing from auto to manual much more of a pain than in the past, and this is one of the easy ones...............lots of parts required. |
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1BadBird
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Posted: Nov 15, 2009 - 01:36 PM
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I know this is an older thread, but I too am planning on the auto to manual swap. Yesterday I found a 5spd car that was complete in respect to the tranny area at a local pick-n-pull. Will I need to get the ECM as well?? I'm going back this Wednesday to get everything from that car and some other stuff off a couple of other cars for my other project 
John
P.S. I mean everything was there, pedal assembly, console w/shifter assmbly. Nothing was touched under the hood. I'm also going to get some patch panels from the body  |
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Big Daddy D.
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Posted: Nov 15, 2009 - 03:30 PM
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Purchase everything you can from it, so that your swap out will be a smoother one.
Don't forget the axles as well (their differant from the ATX) |
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Posted: Nov 15, 2009 - 04:18 PM
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| I was thinking that the axles would be different. I'll do that |
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amc49
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Posted: Nov 16, 2009 - 11:07 PM
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| At least on the earlier stuff (84-86), it appears that the passenger side axle may interchange between ATX and manual 4-5 speeds. The center to center is the same with same stub on ends. One may have a bigger hollow tube center and the other solid shaft with a damper in center, but that would not matter. The driver side is a different length between the two transmissions though. ATX axle also requires a longer inboard shaft on driver to engage the deeper case/differential on that end. |
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Underoath109
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Posted: Nov 17, 2009 - 12:19 AM
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| Ummm.....I do believe a post like this was already done. Hmm, ya know actually, there is a post exactly like this. Cause I was the one that posted it. Actually, I posted it originally on our more liberal sister site: www.ttowners.com. |
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Posted: Nov 17, 2009 - 01:59 PM
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Underoath109 wrote:
Ummm.....I do believe a post like this was already done. Hmm, ya know actually, there is a post exactly like this. Cause I was the one that posted it. Actually, I posted it originally on our more liberal sister site: www.ttowners.com.
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Posted: Nov 18, 2009 - 04:47 AM
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amc49 wrote:
At least on the earlier stuff (84-86), it appears that the passenger side axle may interchange between ATX and manual 4-5 speeds. The center to center is the same with same stub on ends. One may have a bigger hollow tube center and the other solid shaft with a damper in center, but that would not matter. The driver side is a different length between the two transmissions though. ATX axle also requires a longer inboard shaft on driver to engage the deeper case/differential on that end.
that axle does interchange. or atleast i think it does. I KNOW one of the axles is interchagible. cant remember if its drivers or passengers side. |
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Posted: Nov 24, 2009 - 07:04 AM
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Underoath109 wrote:
Ummm.....I do believe a post like this was already done. Hmm, ya know actually, there is a post exactly like this. Cause I was the one that posted it. Actually, I posted it originally on our more liberal sister site: www.ttowners.com.
I'm sorry if you feel I was stepping on your toes and stealing your information, but if you would go back and read my post, I said I had already read your post about this, and was asking if there were any other parts necessary for the swap.
Thank you for the replies everyone. |
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Posted: Feb 02, 2010 - 11:44 PM
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I don't remember exactly cause it's been a couple of years since I did this, but in order to get the starter/clutch interlock set up there's already wiring in the wire loom that runs up the steering column to the ignition switch.
You have to dig a bit, but you'll find a jumper (looks like a plug that just ends) tucked into this wire loom. All you have to do is remove the jumper and then attach the plug from the clutch pedal. |
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Posted: Feb 04, 2010 - 03:05 AM
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| That could well be true, back in the old days they used to supply the basic wiring harness to cover both units. Now, though, they are so tightfisted they cut out anything not needed to get you to purchase more parts. |
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