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Post subject: RE: New Brake Info. From Carbotech Performance Brakes
 Posted: Jan 21, 2010 - 05:01 PM
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Blabbermouth
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| I'm getting close to putting new brakes on my Tempo, the ones on it have a lot of pad left but it really doesn't stop like my Blazer stops (4 wheel discs, dual piston front calipers, raybestos advanced tech. pads) .. since it doesn't look like a group buy is going to happen would I be best to contact carbotech to buy directly or get in touch with a local retailer from their dealers list? |
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Post subject: RE: New Brake Info. From Carbotech Performance Brakes
Posted: Jan 26, 2010 - 01:55 PM
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You can email Mike Puskar at jr@ctbrakes.com , or call him direct at 877-899-5024 in order to place an order.
This is how I connect with the Carbotech Performance Brakes sales dept.
Your lucky, because back when I first ordered their HP street pads for my Topaz they could only offer their custom friction material for the front pads.
These days they can now supply you with rear shoes for T/T's as well. |
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Post subject: RE: New Brake Info. From Carbotech Performance Brakes
Posted: Feb 05, 2010 - 02:16 PM
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"shovel" , In the past ...I too have used the Raybestos rear shoes on my /92 V6, 5spd. Topaz, but had to quit using them once the company rep. came to look at the last set of badly cracked and glazed set while the car was on the hoist. (the rear drums were blue in colour as well... heh heh...)
He said at the time that it looked like I had been pushing my brakes way too hard and would not replace them under warr. for the second time . I said hmm... thats odd... my front brakes look just fine, and my rear brake cables are brand new... so whats really the problem here? He then just glared at me and left the shop in a hurry.  |
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Post subject: RE: New Brake Info. From Carbotech Performance Brakes
Posted: Feb 06, 2010 - 04:52 PM
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Posting Freak
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If I was still living up in the hills, I'd jump on these. I was noticing some fade by the time I got down the old grade back home.
For right now, though, I wouldn't mind some better front brakes, because deer in the road made me do a couple brake tests. The rear wheels lock up too easilly, and it still doesn't stop as quick as I'd like. Then again, that was with stock front springs and dead front struts, so that played a role as well. Maybe when I need a brake job, I'll get some of these front pads, possibly paired with drilled rotors? lol |
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Post subject: RE: New Brake Info. From Carbotech Performance Brakes
Posted: Feb 07, 2010 - 01:56 PM
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You won't need the drilled rotors when using their Street Pad brake compound Hermie.
If you were to purchase drilled rotors ,it would only be for looks, because you would never be able to drive your car hard enough to get those pads to burn/melt in order to have them gas off.
The hotter the street pads get, the better they will modulate and stop you, as compaired to your stock pads.
I recommend going with the same Carbotech friction material on the rear shoes as well, since you'll be smoking the rear brakes big time once you make the change in the front. (please read what I posted earlier to "shovel") |
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Post subject: RE: New Brake Info. From Carbotech Performance Brakes
Posted: Mar 29, 2010 - 02:55 PM
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Ok, since I have installed HP cross drilled and slotted front and rear rotors on my /06 F-150 pickup, here is the website of the company that I purchased them from. Hopefully they will be able to supply T/T rotors for you , even if you just gotta' have them installed for looks.
www.xtremestop.com
Also I would recommend using Ford HD Dot 3 Brake Fluid (part # C6AZ-19542-AA) It's right up there as far as the Dry and Wet temp. ratings are conserned. |
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Post subject: RE: New Brake Info. From Carbotech Performance Brakes
Posted: Mar 29, 2010 - 09:28 PM
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| I have a question or two about that. Our T/Ts don't have world-class front brakes; adequate, yes, great no. My understanding is they tend to warp under a lot of hard-braking conditions; and I'm getting some warping. Which contributes most to cooling the disks, cross-drilling/slotting the disks or hard pads (i.e., Carbotech)? Or is there something else? |
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Post subject: RE: New Brake Info. From Carbotech Performance Brakes
Posted: Mar 29, 2010 - 11:48 PM
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Air flow contributes the most.
If rotor warp is the problem pad composition won't have any effect. It's all how much heat is dissipated from how hard you use them. Drilling promotes more air cooling to the rotor, but having good venting to the rotors is better yet. Ducts from the front for air in and open spoke wheels for air out are how it's done. |
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Post subject: RE: New Brake Info. From Carbotech Performance Brakes
Posted: Mar 30, 2010 - 01:53 AM
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| O.K. Thank you. May have a practical reason now for getting some different wheels!! |
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Post subject: RE: New Brake Info. From Carbotech Performance Brakes
Posted: Mar 30, 2010 - 12:58 PM
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iglen490, cross drilled rotors can help reduce operating temps. by 200'F, but by using the Carbotech pads on your T/T, their proprietary blend of friction materials help to absorb and dissipate heat away from your rotors.
Back in the late /90's , I went with their cryo-hardened rotors as well , while using what was known as their performance street pads at the time. As of today , due to further development of their friction materials through long term race track testing, this step is no longer required.
In fact... their cryo-freezer unit is now up for sale. |
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Post subject: RE: New Brake Info. From Carbotech Performance Brakes
Posted: Mar 30, 2010 - 01:48 PM
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Posting Freak
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| Good info. My thanks to both of you! |
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'97 Ranger 3.0L - "Abe"
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Post subject: RE: New Brake Info. From Carbotech Performance Brakes
Posted: Mar 30, 2010 - 02:21 PM
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No problem! 
With Carbotech now being able to supply you guys with the HP street compound for the T/T rear shoes as well, you'll all have better brakes on your T/T cars then I ever had with my Topaz's.
If you wish, I can check with the folks at Xtreme Stop in regards to weather they can supply you guys with high performance cross drilled & slotted front rotors , along with a part # |
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Post subject: RE: New Brake Info. From Carbotech Performance Brakes
Posted: Aug 13, 2010 - 07:17 AM
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Got my brakes to do some serious fade and got both front wheels to have white smoke billowing out. Ahh, the pungent aroma of burning brake pads.
These Carbotech pads going to avoid that problem? I've been known to push my Tempo harder than MINI drivers dare to push their MINIs, and better braking performance would be wonderful.
Would slotted rotors be worth it as well? I'm going to upgrade to the 15" 8 spoke cast aluminum Escort GT wheels as well, soon, which in theory should help as well, aluminum doing a better job of pulling heat away than steel.
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Posted: Aug 13, 2010 - 01:11 PM
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Yes, from using the Carbotech 1521 HP street pads on my Topaz's ,the hotter they get (rated up to 900F) the better they work.
They have improved the 1521's even more since then, and I'm currently using them on my 2006 F-150 pickup. (F+R)
I am testing a set of four slotted and drilled rotors ($700) on my truck at the moment, but the folks at Carbotech are not real fans of them, saying that they are not required when using the 1521 pad compound.
Their "cryo'd rotors" as they have said, are no longer required either and no longer available, due to the improved compounds. (I used them on my first Topaz).
You can now purchase the 1521 compound for both front pads and rear shoes for your T/T's, where as when I first started using their HP pads , upgrading the rear shoes was not an option.
I would recommend using prem. rotors and drums from Raybesto's ( available from NAPA ) on your car. This is what Carbotech recommends as well. Also don't forget to completely bleed your brake fluid out with fresh fluid. (I went with the Ford HD brake fuild , of which is good to 500F.)
Yeah... I push hard like you do... hence why the first part of my email address reads "ixlr8pdq"...  |
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Posted: Aug 13, 2010 - 04:01 PM
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Even new drums?
I believe the Raybestos parts are on rockauto, so we shall see. Thanks for the input. Know of any hotter brake fluid compounds? |
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